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Roupe · May 18, 2006, 01:51 PM // 13:51

As for Samurajs, dont Koreans generally dislike those?

Spear having an effect on four legged critters, would be nice

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BahamutKaiser · May 18, 2006, 10:57 PM // 22:57

Native Koreans have their dislikes for Japanese, but from what I know, it is Japanese who treat Koreans like second class citizens. Either way, I'm American, my mother is native, but I never lived in the far east.

However Japanese people and players may act realy doesn't matter, we are talking about a fighting class, and Samurai are rather legendary fighters. The idea and interest in this type of class doesn't realy neccessitate Japanese culture, so long as it wields a Katana in 2 hands and uses Samurai combat, I don't care if it is a hindu guy.

There realy isn't a point in bringing up petty ethnic biases, as Americans and typical video game players, we don't give a crap so long as it is cool, we arn't going to shun or overlook a cool class just because it comes from a controversial culture. This goes right next to the Christian fanbase which doen't like necromancer skill art and titles because they arn't Christ like, if you realy have a problem with that, go do something else.

actionjack · May 18, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

Native Koreans have their dislikes for Japanese, but from what I know, it is Japanese who treat Koreans like second class citizens. Either way, I'm American, my mother is native, but I never lived in the far east.

However Japanese people and players may act realy doesn't matter, we are talking about a fighting class, and Samurai are rather legendary fighters. The idea and interest in this type of class doesn't realy neccessitate Japanese culture, so long as it wields a Katana in 2 hands and uses Samurai combat, I don't care if it is a hindu guy.

There realy isn't a point in bringing up petty ethnic biases, as Americans and typical video game players, we don't give a crap so long as it is cool, we arn't going to shun or overlook a cool class just because it comes from a controversial culture. This goes right next to the Christian fanbase which doen't like necromancer skill art and titles because they arn't Christ like, if you realy have a problem with that, go do something else.

Its a bit off topic from the OP... but just to add on to the discussion about Samurai.

I don't think Samurai fit with GW. Its more of a naming issue, because Samurai, thought popularized, is not a native English word, but a verbal spelling of a Japanese term. Thus such name would be too associated with one distinguish real life culture. Same reason apply to why would better call them Assassin, and not Hashshashin. The word Assassin, while comes from middle east, has been embeded too much into the english language, so should be fine.

Also Samurai is not stricly a warrior. I think a more direct translation of the word would mean "Servent", or "One Who Server". (Bushi, which I think would mean Warrior, would be more fitting to a fighting class... as in Bushido-the way of warrior) Samurai often play as much political and adminstrative role as they do in battle field. They are just more famous for their story in battle (and that is only the few famous ones)

Well.. thats just my take...

A pole arm user I feel would are group more into fields of:
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Asian Style: As in Dynasty Warrior's General or Japanes Samurai. Often pole arm is use (since easier and more efficient with riding horse and battling army)
(AoE melee?)

Knights Style: Lance and horse back riding.

Footman Style: Usually with pike or long two hand spear/lance. Mostly poking or Arc swing. I would associate it with more of a Conquistador feel.

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Tribalistic Style: More of a spearman type, usually with one hand throwing spear. Shield on the other hand.

Greek Style: Greek or Roman inspire. Also with one hand throwing spear, or use thrusting of tridant or spear.
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So with the possiblity a African theme, could guess what some spearman-ish class would fit or not fit. While I think a Spearman would be fine (as a alternative to Ranger), I still hope to see more of a Dragoon type...

zoozoc · May 18, 2006, 11:50 PM // 23:50

There is always the possibility of actually making a class that makes us of 2 kinds of weapon. You have a throwing spear that has a range like a shortbow or perhaps more, or their could be different ranges and speeds ect. Then you could also have a melee ranged spear. It would be a little difficult to make it work or to make it actually worthwhile to have the 2 types work either by themselves or hopefully together. Though they will probably end up just using one or the other. Just thought it would be cool.

NatalieD · May 19, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

I would be disappointed if they added a new spear class instead of letting warriors use spears. It would just be so weird for the generic warrior class to not have access to them.

What might be neat, though, is if they added a more exotic spear-using class and a spear attribute for warriors. Using the same spears, of course. I wonder if there's a way to have weapons with multiple attributes able to meet the requirement, without cluttering up the weapon descriptions too much.

actionjack · May 19, 2006, 01:24 AM // 01:24

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Originally Posted by NatalieD

I would be disappointed if they added a new spear class instead of letting warriors use spears. It would just be so weird for the generic warrior class to not have access to them.

What might be neat, though, is if they added a more exotic spear-using class and a spear attribute for warriors. Using the same spears, of course. I wonder if there's a way to have weapons with multiple attributes able to meet the requirement, without cluttering up the weapon descriptions too much.

Uh.. NatalieD... I think you might forget one thing... Dual Prof.
War/Spe or Spe/War could easily fill that character.

Also all prof can use any weapon. Just the matter of efficiency and associated skills.

Aki Soyokaze · May 19, 2006, 04:15 AM // 04:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser

Native Koreans have their dislikes for Japanese, but from what I know, it is Japanese who treat Koreans like second class citizens. Either way, I'm American, my mother is native, but I never lived in the far east.

However Japanese people and players may act realy doesn't matter, we are talking about a fighting class, and Samurai are rather legendary fighters. The idea and interest in this type of class doesn't realy neccessitate Japanese culture, so long as it wields a Katana in 2 hands and uses Samurai combat, I don't care if it is a hindu guy.

There realy isn't a point in bringing up petty ethnic biases, as Americans and typical video game players, we don't give a crap so long as it is cool, we arn't going to shun or overlook a cool class just because it comes from a controversial culture. This goes right next to the Christian fanbase which doen't like necromancer skill art and titles because they arn't Christ like, if you realy have a problem with that, go do something else.

Controversial culture? Japanese treat Koreans like second class citizens? No need to bring up petty ethnic biases? You're the one stirring the pot.

NatalieD · May 19, 2006, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by actionjack

Uh.. NatalieD... I think you might forget one thing... Dual Prof.
War/Spe or Spe/War could easily fill that character.

Also all prof can use any weapon. Just the matter of efficiency and associated skills.

I really want to say "you know what I mean", but I have this horrible feeling that you're entirely serious.

Draxx · May 19, 2006, 09:32 AM // 09:32

I'm Running With The Druid Idea,

--Arcane Mastery-- (Increase Rate of adrenaline for each point put on arcane mastery.)

--Bear Mastery--

--Pike/Spear Mastery--

--Lion Mastery--

--Hawk Mastery--

Based on this obviously it wont be shapeshifting or anything silly like that, they will simply have different types of skills (of which a druid should learn in order to be at one as it were with nature in order to be a druid of pure sex

lol)

obviously alot of these skills will be adrenaline based which would make arcane mastery workable, and there weapon would be the spear or pike, (obviously.) lol

i think it could work as a brief sketch out of an idea, obviously it would need work, but what do we think.

---------------Obviously it doesnt have to be a DRUID per say, but the idea is of a class strong and based with melee, but with a completely different idea to the warrior and any other melee class... which i think this idea has---------------

Raziel665 · May 19, 2006, 12:55 PM // 12:55

Spears suck! We need polearems in general, both stabbing and swining types.

Why? Cause then I can finally make a Scythe wielding Necro, and everyone knows scythe's are teh awesome.